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Is Stronger Than Death
Arthur Dobrin
3-Talking to the Dead
A month after her husband's death a woman met with me to talk about something she had
experienced which she didn't understand and found frightening. All her life she had been a
humanist, convinced that nothing exists outside the natural order of the universe. She was
not at all superstitious and believed that death was final and complete. When a person
died, no soul continued on.
One morning her husband suddenly died from a heart attack at the foot of the bed they
had shared for nearly thirty years.
Several weeks after the funeral she was startled from her sleep. She sensed her husband
was in the room with her. She felt it the way a person sometimes feels when they are being
stared at by another.
When she first felt the presence she became scared and her husband's presence quickly
disappeared. Several days later she was again awakened when she felt him in the room with
her. This time she was less frightened and the presence stayed longer. On one other night
the same thing happened and this time she felt no fear at all.
Now she came to talk to me because she thought that maybe she was losing her mind. She
believed that her husband's presence was real but at the same time she didn't believe in
angels or spirits.
What was it then?
I then told her a story about John Lovejoy Elliott, an Ethical Culture leader who had
served the Ethical Movement for half a century. Elliott and Felix Adler were fast friends
for fifty years. Some described Elliott's relationship to Adler as a nephew to an uncle.
However it may be characterized, clearly it was close and long-lasting. Following Adler's
death, Elliott moved into Adler's study at the New York Society for Ethical Culture. One
day a visitor came to call on Elliott, only to find him talking out loud. No one else was
there. The visitor was embarrassed to have discovered Elliott like this. But Elliott
wasn't in the least bothered by it. He explained in all sincerity that he was talking to
Adler.
Elliott didn't believe in ghosts. He never had and he didn't now. He explained to the
visitor that Adler wasn't literally in the room with him but in a real sense he was
present. After half a century of close association, after having worked and studied
together, Elliott said that he still consulted with Adler when an important decision
needed to be made. He knew Adler so well that he could have conversations with him even if
he weren't there. It was an honest admission on his part that Adler's personality
continued to live through his own. Elliott said that he often talked to Adler and his old
friend still offered guidance. Sitting alone in the study, holding a conversation with a
departed friend was a valuable source of comfort to him.
Sometimes the dialogues are held out loud. Other times they are inner discussions,
interior conversations in the privacy of one's own being. The poet Abraham Sutskever holds
such conversations with his parents through his writing. They talk to him and he to them.
By writing about them and listening to what they have to say he finds continued guidance.
In one of his poems he writes about his mother's death at the hands of the Nazis during
the Vilna massacre. He imagines rushing into her room after her death and finding her torn
nightshirt. Sutskever says that he threw off his clothes and climbed into her open shirt.
"It's no longer a shirt but your bright skin/ it's your cold, surviving
mortality."
But after he had taken on her skin, she speaks to him. She tells him not to do it.
"It's a sin, a sin./ Accept our separation/ as just."
What is this sin? It is giving up his own life, to take on his mother' s for her sake.
She tells him, "If you remain/ I will still be alive/ as the pit of the plum/
contains in itself the tree,/ the nest and the bird/ and all else besides."
The sentiment of the poem is correct. For Sutskever to take up his mother's life would
compound the tragedy. If he wants to honor her, it is enough for him to live. It is that
which ensures her immortality. Life is complete and each life is unique. To give up life,
to deny one's own specialness is to commit a sin.
She tells him that the seed contains the flower, the acorn the tree. She will remain
alive because he exists. His very existence attests to hers. In this way her presence is
real and eternal. And in this way her son continues to talk to her.


Love is Stronger than Death
Arthur Dobrin
Copyright 1986 by Arthur Dobrin
All rights reserved under International and Pan-American Copyright
Conventions. First Printing 1981, Second Printing 1989, Third Printing 1992 ISBN:
0-91-2166-00-2 Reprinted 1997 on the Internet with permission of Arthur Dobrin. Single
copies may be produced for personal use only.